Monday, August 10, 2009

What A Religious Book Does Not Teach?

Being religious does not mean that one is compassionate and humane. A true religion teaches us about compassion, love and respect for life and mankind. A man who claims to be religious can be overly fixated with the rituals but not its virtues.

Can a person claim to be religious if he cannot differentiate between a person's willingness to be responsible for his action and a person who is not?

Mohd Ridhuan Tee Abdullah, a senior lecturer, should be the last person who would not or cannot spot the difference. Ridhuan Tee's comment about Teoh Beng Hock's unborn child and labelling her/him as illegitimate is wrong and inhumane. The parents of the unborn child have a name. They were bound by a vow to a life together as man and wife, and parents to their new offspring.

Teoh's life was cruelly truncated a day before he could claim legitimacy to both his baby and his fiance. The refusal of the National Registration Department to recognize his child does not change the fact that Teoh was the legitimate father.

But what Teoh did - to accept his responsibility as a father and a husband -, and Ridhuan did not appreciate, cannot be compared to thousands of illegitimate babies born and abandoned by their parents who refused to accept the outcome of their desire.

Teoh was prepared to marry his fiance. He was prepared to accept responsibility and was eagerly anticipating a chance to become a proud father.

As a Muslim, I am surprised that Ridhuan Tee did not appreciate the fact the Almighthy is compassionate. Some human hearts may be too narrow to accept Teoh's unborn child but not God's.

A blogger asks; "Whose racist and kiasu?". Yes, who is both racist and kiasu? Who made this statement: "Mereka begitu pandai berpolitik. Mengambil kesempatan di atas kelemahan dan perpecahan Melayu. Jika Melayu Islam bersatu, saya tidak yakin, mereka seberani ini. Keberanian mereka disebabkan ada segelintir orang Melayu bersama mereka. Ini yang menjadikan mereka semakin besar kepala seperti kaduk naik junjung."

Ridhuan cannot hide behind the curtain of race and religion when his statement about Teoh's illegitimate child was being taken to task by a few parties. DAP and the Chinese are not synonymous. MCA or Gerakan does not represent the Chinese. Jeff Ooi's views do not concur with mine.

Ridhuan may be a Muslim but he cannot change the fact that he belongs to the Chinese ethnic origin. Malay may be inseparable with Islam. But Muslims are not all Malays. Many like Ridhuan are converts. There are more Chinese Muslims than the whole population of Malaysia.

Hence, I do not see any sense for Ridhuan to call out for Malay Muslim unity to react against some statements made by a few politicians and editors. Ridhuan's blanket statement against his own race will not win him any sympathy although he might have a point on sex before marriage and irresponsible couples who dumped their babies.

Ridhuan's calling for PAS to review their partnership with DAP and his political attacks against the party are the sore points of his article. Ridhuan's attempt to defend UMNO as a racist party will put his independence into question.

There are a few things that the senior lecturer might want to take note:

1) It is necessary to look at Teoh's case independently. Teoh's case is not about legitimizing sex before marriage. It is about a person who lost his life a day before he could register his marriage and to claim a legal status for his wife and child. Moreover, he was killed in custody.

2) The institution of marriage is a modern phenomenal. Some of our early ancestors probably did not go through the whole process of registering their marriages. Historically, some of them even had more than one social partners. It did not make these liaisons immoral or irresponsible. It was acceptable during those period of time. Looking back at history, there is a high chance that a number of us originated from these 'illegal' liaisons.

3) It is unwarranted for Ridhuan to make a sweeping statement against all Chinese if his previous article was criticized by a few politicians and editors. He should observe respect against some individuals who were not even aware of his existence or his article.

Anyone who reads Ridhuan's article would have a chilly feeling that he sounded like a typical politician from a particular race-based party. Worse, Ridhuan should not lecture others about being kiasu and racist if he cannot even accept the reality about his own ethnicity.

We should respect all religions. But some of us should learn to respect and accept that Malaysia is a multiracial and multireligious country. Each of us has our own set of social and religious norms. The highest law of this nation is the civil laws and the federal constitution. Islam is the official religion of this country but it does not say that Malaysia is an Islamic nation, not as claimed by Ridhuan.

Good Muslims will not be bothered to even take a sip of beer and alcohol even if an open bottle is put right in front of their nose. A person who wants a pint of beer will go through the trouble to get one even if you placed it in a lion's den.

This is a decision for the federal government to make - ban the sales of liquor and beer. I abhor drinking but it does not stop me from respecting others choice to do so as long as it is legally allowed.

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ridhuan is not a Chinese !
He is a crying shame of his ancestor and his parents.
Khoo, please do not ever address him as a Chinese, not because he became a muslim but because he condemns his own kind just like the pariah Mahathir who condemns the Indians. What has he done for the Indians in Malaysia ?
Ridhuan hopes to become another pariah Mahathir in the making ,when he sold his soul and heritage to the devil.
Unlike pariah Mahathir he will never ever become a Malay, unfortunately for him.
The half breeds and the likes of pariah Mahathir will pass rules (man made rules in UMNO) to ensure Chinese will never become Malays or be in UMNO like these bastards regardless of what he wears, behaves or eats.
They just want to be the one eye of the blind ? They were never 'wake' up the real Malays so that these goons can continue to enrich themselves and their children in this country, in the name of the Malays using the NEP !
Time to wake up real Malays, if there are any real Malays left and kick these corrupted bastards out of the systems they created.
Only Allah or God can decide if you are to be born a Malay ,Chinese or an Indian. And not the half breeds or the pariah in UMNO. These goons are trying to play the role of Allah or God !
You are either born a Malay, Chinese or an Indian ! Period.

Anonymous said...

Most converts have such behaviour. They are more inclined to please their Malay muslim brothers.They don't look at things mindfully from the religious teachings.They just want to show that they are "religious" This is called stupid followers.

Anonymous said...

Mohd Ridhuan's article is a classic case study on how to divert attention to irrelevant.

We want to find out the truth of Teoh's death, not the unborn baby. We want to reprimand and punish the murder(s), again, not the unborn baby.

Hopefully, other lecturers at the local higher learning institutions do know have such swallow thinking as Ridhuan has. If not, Malaysia is doomed for failure!!

It is embarassed to have Ridhuan as a lecturer! Shame to our education system..........

Anonymous said...

I think all of us should stop talking about the poor unborn child-he is sinless and yet so many angel holy men want to judge the child already.Pls shut up.

Jeff Loke said...

Hidup Loke Siew Fook! Kay Peng the Independent Political Analyst is behind you.

Anonymous said...

Kay Peng,100% truly agree with you!!!!!!!

We know that Rocky Bru and Ridhuatee Abdullah (who claims himself a buddihst and Chinese before)has personal agenda....

Smart people should not fall into their trap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muiyee said...

I beg differ, one's action and decision is one's responsibility. Obviously some people choose to be racist, some ppl choose to be extremist, some ppl choose to be idiot. How funny, when the comments are attacking his originate? Why can't ppl start looking ppl as individual and stop the whole race, religion, ethnic background, represent so-on-and-so-on mentality?

Anonymous said...

So much racial and religious vitriol to stir strife and hatred between the communities. This is precisely what UMNO will do as they know that time is not on their side nor are most of the Rakyat, come GE 13. It will indeed be an unlucky number for UMNO and they will go all out to preserve their power. It is really the Malays that will save this country, the right thinking and fair minded. It is time that more spoke up against the excesses of their community, in order that evil will not continue to run free. Right now, social structures are containing the rampant evil. If nothing is done to curb this foulness, it will be like the scene from The Legend, when the subhuman repeatedly crashes against the glass enclosure, and through brute force, prevails.
The Anwars, Nik Azizs, Zaid Ibrahims and Tengku Razaleighs are too few and far between. This nation needs more from the right thinking and fair minded Malays to voice up, lest our nation descend into Zimbabwean ways.

Jeffon风 said...

I agree with you.
A country or religion may die because of few "devoted" people who deviate from the actual meaning of one religion brings to.
Sometimes, thing should be looked from all different angles. Yea I agree with what a religion stressed on and we should follow what a religion teaches for. But follow does not mean a mere follow without thinking.
Yea of course stand at the side of religion and virtue, pregnancy before marriage is bad. But thing has already happened and the father did not mean that he did not want to take his responsibility. That's why we need to give him a chance although he is dead.
Yea law is another problem. So there must need a change in law since the law today does not provide right to the unborn child especially in the case which the father died before doing register.
Back to the topic of religion, since thing already happened, and the parents also wanna pick their responsibilities, we should allow the status of Teoh's unborn child. One thing should make clear that allowing does not mean we agree with the phenomenon of pregnancy before marriage.

Despite of opposition, we should recognize his unborn child. This is part of humane identity and initiative to solve problem.

Anonymous said...

About alcohol, you should read this blog. It share same opinion like me.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/110066

You should see the issue in a bigger picture. It's not about selling beer to a good Muslim.

Maybe you're lucky staying in an elite area. But to me, seeing a group of teens drunk at my parking lot, is very inconvenient. FYI, I stay at a mid cost apartment with a 24hours "convenient" store just nearby.

Anonymous said...

Ridhuan Tee is trying his best to become a Malay. he doesn't seem to understand that he is an ethnic Chinese and cannot change this no matter what he does. The most he can be is a good Muslim (if he tries hard) but he will never be a Malay.

I am always amazed by how one can try to change one's ethnicity in this country by religious conversion.

Charlie Oscar said...

Dear Mr. Khoo,
Thank you for a good and sensible post.
First and foremost, it was Senator Chew Mei Fun, Head of MCA Wanita who FIRST brought up this matter, not the DAP. Please verify.
Senator Chew wants to appeal to the Home Minister to have TBH (RIP)in the birth certificate of the child.
Our Hon. PM had agreed to look into the matter with the AG and the
matter has not been decided.
Therefore, THAT article was UNNECCESSARY, especially by Dr Mohd Ridhuan Tee Bin Abdullah.
Did 1Malaysia ask for his opinion?
There is nothing racist and ultra kiasu in the first place, AT ALL!!!

Anonymous said...

Being chinese Ridhuan knows what he is talking abount. That is his views so be it. By calling him names we are guilty and proving he is right.
What we can do is to further improve ourselves so that we are no more irreligious kiasu which is now being well ingrained in our soul.

Anonymous said...

What the FUCK is Ridhuan talking about? Does he mean to say that Teoh's child is 'illegitimate' ? Just because the parents have yet to solemnise their union before the father died? If it's what he's implying, I think a lot of us parents who did not go thru the 'registration' process of the marriages then would have us labelled as 'illegitimates' including the holier than thou Ridhuan. I think his parents had erased his name from the ancestral book. Maybe he ought to search his screwed up mind to do some revision before he opens his FUCKed up mouth.

Anonymous said...

That Ah Tee guy must have lost his real identity....& has betrayed his actual original race.
I suspect he's going to go for surgery to turn himself into Malay.
I respect his religion but i disrespect him for his betrayal & his lack of intelligence.

paMElo

sherene said...

Yupp, Please shut up....We want justice on Teoh's death and not punishing the unborn child....Sack the bloody stupid lecturer like Ridhuan....He is probably paid 1 million of more to comment in Utusan....

Anonymous said...

Know why Tee convert to Islam...???
And now he want to prove and repay to shows he is truly Islam and Malay..I don't believe so..

Anonymous said...

The more we comment and the more kiasu we will be labelled so. He is chinese whether we like it or not and he is Muslim too. So we must show that we are not kiasu by letting him and others to air their views. Shutting him up, accusing being paid and accusing him of being to be a Malay may be construed by others that we are truely kiasu. It is easy to accuse, others can also accuse bloggers to be on the take too. so be careful

Anonymous said...

I did not read what Ridhuan Tee wrote but I totally agree with you.
Why someone should make an issue out of TBH's unborn child is mind boggling and disgusting.
The child has nothing to do with us or TBH's death.
Those low-life don't even know how to respect others privacy!

Anonymous said...

It is muslim like Ridhuan who damages the great islamic religion that it has gotten into the world over.True muslim cannot but condemn muslim of such ilk.

Ridhuan is nothing but a shame to his family and of all chinese converts who does not think and behaves like him.

kedahan said...

Ridhuan Tee,

There are many orphanage home in Malaysia, please go and tell them that you are Chinese Muslim and they kids what you have written about TBH child.

Hope that all GODS will read your article and decide where to put you in future.

amoker said...

Missing the point. The latest article of Noraini seems to point that to attack Tee Abd ( person) is the same as attacking Islam. I personally disagree with how Tee tries to be 'holier than thou" and without mercy. If Noraini equates both as the same, it will be a real shame

Anonymous said...

..Tee Abd ( person) is the same as attacking Islam.
Like many unknown angry Chinese over his remarks we would love to poke his arse, but how can this be deem as attacking my muslim neighbours? 'Arsy' thinking cik Noraini!

...and if all agreed he is Chinese then it must be 'bedroom talks' among Chinese, why all the mfuck---- sides are involved?

Simonek said...

KKP

You are absolutely correct !

Let TBH rest in peace and do not disturb his innocent and unborn child.

Ppl like Ridhuan should have known what to say unless he has the intention to divert attention and instigate the situation for worst.

Lets not be distracted by the uncalled for comments in continuance seeking justice for TBH

Cheers

Simonek

Paul Garrard said...

“Being religious does not mean that one is compassionate and humane” – also not being religious does not mean that one is not compassionate and humane!

Illegitimate (like blasphemy) is just a word. It doesn’t matter to sane people not influenced by the dilutions of ‘magic men’. These things seem to be blown out of all proportion by those that need to crutch of religion to get them through life I fear. http://thereisnogod.of-course.co.uk/

Anonymous said...

Justice For TBH !!!

Anonymous said...

i guess you guys never read his full article in Utusan.

http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2009&dt=0726&pub=utusan_malaysia&sec=Rencana&pg=re_01.htm&arc=hive

He do not blame the unborn baby nor TBH. But the MCA Women Chief.

I hope you guys happy to see your generation in the future live like western people, living together and have kids before married.

Anonymous said...

The fact is we r 'social animal' and bastard child is never an acceptable way to bear child in this world. Let's accept the fact the unborn child is a bastard but this man deserve justivce too for what he has done or undone. Just because he is chinese dun mean he is beyond criticism. As a fellow chinese I dun think what he do with the woman before marriage is right. We dun wan the whole looking at us like another animal

Anonymous said...

Reverand Khoo u r preaching new religion we follow meyh

Anonymous said...

Ktak: The Utusan article "Bahaya Matlamat Menghalalkan Cara" also appeared in his blog

http://ridhuantee.blogspot.com/2009/08/bahaya-matlamat-menghalalkan-cara.html

Noticed that he had written 9 articles in 2006 and 3 articles in 2009 with none in 2007 and 2008.

How credible is this lecturer blogger that Utusan decided to carry his article?

Zack said...

Beware everyone. The Enemy Utusan has find out its strategy of inflammatory articles written by Malays has not been fruitful.

The new plan is to bait the Non Malay using a Wannabe Malay. Any critical response by Non Malay can be twist by them as an attack on Islam, like what amoker say.

Anonymous said...

Jefon u hv short thinking - u fuck the fella before marriage this will be the risk yr offspring is a bastard, period. Maybe u may want to consider bastard son is ok, tell and convince the world then. just wondering endorsing this bastard philosophy may look bad on us. Count me out huh...

Anonymous said...

Wahh reverand Khoo, new title. Yes u give life and honour to all bastards. Yes dun look down on bastards. Its the so called man-woman fuckers that shud be called bastrd. I shud be call the flower child. this is modern world with so many of us no religion or confused budha teaching and so many unmarried couples now, so review this bastard definition. Reverand Khoo sugeest a propsal to free us from this torment.

Simonek said...

Hey anon @ 9.23pm

Out of curiosity, who are we to ascertain whether the unborn child is legitimate or otherwise !!

Whatever, it should be the parents answerable to "HIM".

The most salient points here is how did TBH died and why?

Please dont be off tracked !!

Cheers

Simonek

Anonymous said...

the fucker dare to criticise chinese' behaviours and attitude, Does he dare to criticise malay ?
i bet he doesnt dare! he is a coward too...i think ppl will salute him when he does...

Ye Li An said...

I like your points. It's sad what happened to Beng Hock. I hope his fiance and child are accepted into the family regardless of what the National Registration Department dictates.
The Malaysians should be proud of their heritage whether they are Malay, Chinese, Indian or Native. It is sad that Mohd Ridhuan Tee Abdullah has very little knowledge of ... Read Morethe laws in question esp. when a politician like himself should be quite familiar with.
I say Beng Hock's marriage is legal due to his good faith in wanting to marry his fiance and become a father to his unborn child. This is acceptable in the Catholic canon law.
If Malaysia is ruled by an Islamic government, then Malaysia is an Islamic country. If not, then Beng Hock's family has the right to claim their future daughter-in-law as part of their family and the child take the name of Teoh.

Anonymous said...

Encik Tee, I am sure is being paid by umno to write disrespectful article against his own kind.He is worst than a bastard,

K L said...

The Jelapang assemblywoman and this chap are from the same kind !

Anonymous said...

Simonek, its not difficult to determine child is legit or not. Check the date of marriage and birth of child - less than 9 months, not premature birth? In this case its clear he's fiancee. Ohh the catholic definition by another blogger not familiar with that, intention to marry good enuf? I think catholaic religion more strict thats why christian create protestant. nevermind so we become catholic ma flexible religion

Anonymous said...

Rev Khoo is it true catholic religion ok sex before marriage so long as she is fiancee and intention to marry soon. wPl reccomend openminded catholic church 4 me

Anonymous said...

What a shame !!

What could be worse than a person who forgets his own origins even without having to have DNA analysis done.

Why not Ridhuan preach on his "converted" race on the percentage of incest and abandon babies ? Dare to take up te challenge ?

Ridhuan Tee is no more of a pot calling kettle black !!!

Anonymous said...

saw this posting which is quite well written to rebut Ridhuan Tee's article.


It is is you who is kiasu Dr.Ridhuan Tee, not the Chinese community.

By VIJAY KUMAR MURUGAVELL

http://ridhuantee.blogspot.com/2009/08/bahaya-matlamat-menghalalkan-cara.html

Assalamulaikum, waramatulahi wabarakatuh

You miss the point by a mile Ridhuan Tee (picture above), all above explanations are just a diatribe against those who take you to task for you insensitive comments,

It is not what you say but how you say it.To then hit out at the Chinese community in general as "kiasu" that too with a broad brush is patently unfair.

You then go on to paint DAP specifically and the Chinese generally as decadent and hedonistic, did Islam or any other religion for that matter ever teach its followers to slander ?

You also paint YB Ronnie Liu as a crusader out on a vendetta against Muslims, when Ronnie Liu stressed so many times that his intent was not to belittle Islam but he is duty bound to see that laws are observed, and not arbitrary.

A distinction must be drawn between insulting Islam and insulting some Munafiqs who call themselves Muslim.
For example many "mat rempits" will declare that they are Muslims, so if I rebuke their actions, does that mean I am anti Islam ?

There seems to be nothing praiseworthy of your method nor intent. Are you hoping to win goodwill this way ? A true Muslim will never speak like this.

Using the Teoh family's misfortune to highlight the social ills you mentioned is underhanded and opportunistic not to mention in bad taste.

It still does not explain your behavior, is your statement even relevant ? Both Teoh Beng Hock and his fiancee are not Muslims so why apply your standards of morality to them ? They had planned to register their marriage a day before Teoh died. Who are you to judge ?

You obfuscate the issue by trying to draw parallels between religious and civil laws when the issue was your insensitivity more so against the backdrop of multiracial and multicultural sensitivities.

If you want to draw parallels there are areas which are not parallel, for example oral sex is permissible under Islam for legitimately married couples, however under the penal code it is technically an offence even for married couples, here Islamic law makes far more sense than its civil counterpart, Will you write to the authorities to have this archaic civil legislation repealed ?

Many scholars have opined that the ISA (Internal Security Act) is un-Islamic , will you write to the government as a concerned Muslim to repeal it ?

Why don't you castigate proven adulterers of influential public stature who call themselves Muslim, Rahim Thambi Chik, Abu Hassan Omar, Abdul Razak Baginda... etc , I dare you if your principles are as relevant as you purport.

Can you then blame those who accuse you of being an UMNO tool ? A person is judged by the consistency of their actions..

If you talk about opinion, then ,my question is will you accept a statement by a Hindu that you are an ignorant beef eater as just opinion ?

Of course you will not because you will not like someone who does not share your religious convictions rudely imposing their moral standards on you. It is not about who is right or wrong but about understanding and compassion.


more at .....
http://margeemar.blogspot.com/2009/08/it-is-you-who-is-kiasu-drridhuan-tee.html#links

Anonymous said...

catholic religion teaching very flexible? how come got protestant. protest what? no lahh catholiac is confused religion so Islam came to correct it

Simonek - Voice Of Suppressed And Oppressed said...

Dear Mr Reverend KKP & Readers

I believe most of us, if not all, by now are cognizant of the issues related to the death of TBH and without doubt, the COMMON questions that instantaneous in the mind of every one of us, will be - "HOW AND WHY DID HE DIED? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?". These are the salient questions that should be answered, above all.

However, there are some irresponsible parties ( like the senior lecturer ),are taking the advantage to seek cheap publicity, deliberately raised extraneous and controversial issues to aggravate and avert matters , without the least respect for the demise, the unborn child and the sentiment of family members. Such an inconsiderate action are branded as “cold-blooded and inhuman" , which is common in the animal kingdom

Contrariwise, let's assumed that on July 16, the tragedy did not befall and TBH is still alive, do you think the issues of his illegitimacy marriage and unborn child, will be evoked? ( especially by that b**** convert lecturer )

Therefore, I hereby urged to whom it may be, that, with immediate effect , to cease all unwarranted speculations and commments pending the outcome of the Inquest/RCI.

Lastly, another important issue that I want to address to those who do not know TBH, in person (including myself),. Whenever we proclaimed “ TRUTH AND JUSTICE FOR TBH” , make no mistake that , is all about his TRAGIC DEATH and that has triggered the nationwide outraged, resentment, shock, fear and call for justice,that we all seek and matters, be it premeditated or otherwise.

TRUTH & JUSTICE FOR TBH! WE SEEK !!

Cheers

Simonek

Anonymous said...

Simonek we also want to know from rev khoo catholic religion bastard prctiseok?

Anonymous said...

RIDUAN TEE ABDULLAH. I have followed your 'ceramah agama' live on TV a couple of times and was quite impressed but after reading your writing over race and religion, I have totally lost, repeat LOST whatever respect for you untuill you stand up and deny that the article was written by you. Say that it was 'spin doctor' from Utusan that did the trick on you, probably I and millions might beleive you, I said MIGHT but not really beleive you.
I have no respect for people like you. You have proved beyond doubt that how a CONVERT can take REFUGEE in a race, knowingly very well you are not a MALAY but only a MUSLIM CHINESE. Muslim scholars should not be race based, just like our beloved Tuan Guru NIK AZIZ who never claim that race is more superior to religion. If that were the case then the ARABS today will be more superior. Isn't it. Shame on you. Nik Aziz always maintains that UMNO should talk about unity In Islam and nothing else.
You should leave your profession and join UMNO and lets see how long you last. Shame on you Riduan TEE

Anonymous said...

Dun expect rev khoo to acknowlege catholic religion embrace bastard and such extra marital activities. He is another deviant of a deviant religion, trying to justify current problem.

Anonymous said...

what ridhuan tee wrote is true.I have to say that none of you have read thoroughly what ridhuan tee have written in mingguan malaysia.either u have a very poor understanding in Bahasa Malaysia or you did not read the article thoroughly.until then, do not wtite what u think its true.read it fully.

Anonymous said...

ones should read the article accordingly to the fact not with emotion.
Respect with other people research the if you think too good enough try fight with him using fact lol~
dont be like mosquito flying here and there making chaotic word and try to hide the fact...
People willing to say the truth if there is a truth with facts not emotional thinking